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For some reason, I'm not quite sure why - okay, it was probably boredom - I watched the first episode of season 3 of Teen Wolf. And then the next one. And the next one. And now I'm caught up on the first season, eagerly waiting for the new episode tomorrow, and already have some vague fic ideas that I will most likely never write. How did that happen.

It's become obvious very quickly that the actual show and the majority of fanworks have very little to do with one another. On the one hand, good, I like the actual show much better, but it also means that despite the thousands of fics on the AO3 it's hard to find the kind of fic I want to read. I suddenly have renewed sympathy for SGA fans who didn't like McShep; Sterek seems if possible even more of a fandom OTP, or perhaps I just haven't found the other parts yet. Not that I mind reading it, some stories are good, but most of them are so very obviously either AU or OOC or frequently both and not what I want at all.


One thing that I noticed quickly was that the main characters are actual teenagers, with teenager problems and teenager maturity. Most of the recent canons I've followed have adult main characters (in Gundam Wing the teenager main characters had soldier training and mostly (tried to) act like it, and in Homestuck it's often easy to forget (which makes scenes like self-sacrifice scenes where you suddenly remember how incredibly young they are all the more heartbreaking, and both of these are animated) and it makes a difference in how I react to bad things happening to them. They're so young, and already so traumatized! Scott thinking he killed a man, being afraid that he'll kill everyone he loves, and being afraid because he can't protect people - he's sixteen. So is Stiles, and he's been attacked by his best friend-turned-werewolf and kidnapped and threatened by a psychopath. Allison is seventeen, and she saw her aunt torturing a man and her aunt's throat being torn out right in front of her. Even Derek: his sister died, he is captured and tortured by the woman who seduced him to kill his family, his only surviving family member deliberately killed his sister. Jackson has some internalized family trauma that so far has only been hinted at, and then hallucinations on top of that, no wonder he's a bit messed up.

I like that all of the characters a) make stupid decisions, b) are not perfectly nice people. All of them occasionally behave like assholes, actually. Stiles would prefer it if Derek died because he believes it would make his life easier. Derek is a dick to Scott and Stiles, threatens them, and doesn't tell them anything they need to know. Scott more than once puts Allison over everything else when it's very stupid to do so. Jackson and Lydia are pretty obvious, likewise Chris Argent. Allison maybe the least, but she enjoys taking revenge on Lydia for making out with Scott. Nobody is the clear-cut hero of the story, and even the villains are either on another side (Chris Argent, Jackson) or have some redemptive qualities (Peter was driven crazy and still cares for his family, Kate is crazy and, uh, hm, okay that's difficult.)

The show occasionally skips over a lot, which is annoying. We barely get anything about why Derek either pretends to or actually joins forces with Peter, and similar things happened e.g. in the last season 3 episode.
There are also some things that I would dearly love to know more about, like why does Allison become such a good friend of Lydia so quickly? By the end of season 1 they're close enough that Allison has some "leverage" over her, yet in the beginning Allison was the new girl and Lydia one of the most popular girls in the school who presumably has many other friends that we hardly ever see. I want a lot more Allison&Lydia.
The resolution of Stiles&Lydia at the dance was great, btw.

Things that I found particularly surprising when contrasted with fanon: obviously the dislike between Derek and Stiles. Also apart from his Allison fixation Scott is never shown as stupid on the show, only in completely over his head, and understandably so. Stiles is not the one running around trying to help everyone, in fact he seems very fixated on the people close to him (I really liked the scene where he chains Scott to the radiator partly to help him but also to punish him for making out with Lydia.)

Sure, the show is cheesy (some of the romance scenes, some of the howling-at-the-moon scenes, the frequent shirtlessness, the villains are very dramatic), but it's also more often than I expected genuinely good, and I'm enjoying it a lot. New episode tomorrow, yay!

Date: 2013-07-01 09:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kittydesade
It's become obvious very quickly that the actual show and the majority of fanworks have very little to do with one another.

That may be the most promising/intriguing thing I've ever heard anyone say about Teen Wolf ever.

(And I'm one of those people who couldn't stand McShep. Well, I started out giving it my usual treatment of "Well, I don't see it, but ship and let ship" and ended up in a place of "I hate everything McShep and want it to stop being everywhere like slime mold.")

Date: 2013-07-01 09:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kittydesade
I haven't actually read any fics yet, mostly because for a while it was all over Yuletide and my flist and my Twitter feed. I got overdosed without even seeing the show, and since everyone's selling point seemed to be "OMG STEREK" I just left it out.

(I had the same problem with Supernatural, then picked it up around season 3 and thought it was a good show! Then I dropped it around season 5 again. :/)

It's so... it gets overpowering, it seems like, when the entirety of fandom drops onto a pairing and fills everything with it. If I find time and end up watching Teen Wolf, maybe I can write some of the stories you'd like to read. ;)

Date: 2013-07-02 12:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pandarus
Scott isn't a genius, but he's not STUPID - he's pretty much just plausible normal teenage boy. And he's got GALLONS of emotional intelligence, and zero macho fuckwittery. He is a lovely boy - Melissa done good.

Yeah, fandom & the whole Sterek thing really isn't very rooted in canon. I mean, Stiles-as-bisexual I think you can definitely make a case for, but for the first two seasons there's mostly antagonism between Stiles and Derek, rather than chemistry. I enjoy Sterek well enough, mind, but it's very fanonical characterisation.

...I'm terribly fond of the show, because it harks back to oldskool buffy with its worldbuilding, and it's blessedly unhomophobic, and unmisogynist, but it's not very well written or consistent. But I love Allyson, and I feel terribly sorry for Derek (who is a wretchedly terrible alpha). I'm fond of fanfic that has LauraNOT being killed, myself. Especially any AU where Derek is not so blisteringly miserable and alone - because, yes, i know he's a great big strapping bloke, but he's still horribly young and he's had positively Winchesterish levels of misery in his life so far.

Date: 2013-07-02 08:28 pm (UTC)
extempore: (oh poopie!)
From: [personal profile] extempore
Ich fürchte, TW ist für mich eine totale Crack-Show. Falls du die heutige Folge schon gesehen hast - hier ein paar Gedanken dazu von Hello, tailor, die so ziemlich den meinigen entsprechen: http://hellotailor.blogspot.co.at/2013/07/teen-wolf-frayed.html

Die Serie hat so viele Plot-, Charakter- und Realitätslöcher, dass ich sie wirklich nur als Crack ertrage. Der ist dafür dann aber erste Sahne! XD

Date: 2013-07-01 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
Teen Wolf is the case where the fandom has scared me away before giving it a chance. Like Harry Potter, I feel uncomfortable with the idea that the main pairings features teenagers and the over-saturation of that pairing kind of taints things. It might be one of those shows I might watch when it's over, although the fact that most of the cast are so young really doesn't interest me. I do find your analysis really interesting as in the canon and fandom are so wide apart.

Date: 2013-07-01 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schneefink.livejournal.com
I can understand that. If you're uncomfortable with the idea of 16-year-olds having sex in general you probably want to stay away from canon too, it's very clear that that happens and it's shown as completely okay.

Date: 2013-07-01 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com
I'm weird. Nothing wrong with teenagers having sex because that's life. I just feel uncomfortable with the idea of middle-aged men and women writing tons of porn featuring teenagers. But that is my weird hang-up. I'm sure there are tons of people who don't like h/c while I do. It's all good.

Date: 2013-07-01 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amnisias.livejournal.com
Ah - at least one sane person! Everybody else on my flist seems to watch a totally different show than me. There are seriously people out there who 'see' Sterek in the show and claim it's gonna happen imminently ...*rubs eyes* huh?

One thing that I noticed quickly was that the main characters are actual teenagers, with teenager problems and teenager maturity. (...) like that all of the characters a) make stupid decisions, b) are not perfectly nice people.

So much Scott bashing is going on in fandom, claiming he's making stupid decisions all the time and being selfish etc - all the while I'm just thinking: "He behaves like a teen with a lot on his plate - which he is." He's tryinig his best, and that's not always that good, but then the other kids and Derek don't strike me as consistently brilliant decision makers, either.

Date: 2013-07-01 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schneefink.livejournal.com
I guess there must be more Derek&Stiles interaction in season 2, but I just don't see how they could go from Stiles asking Scott to let Derek die to having actual UST in a few months. Tension =/= romantic tension. I try not to judge people for the way they interpret/view a show, but it's weird when they claim it's canon.

Exactly, his reactions are very understandable given the horrible experiences he's having. Sixteen! Suddenly a werewolf, with a completely different body, people trying to kill him and telling him to help kill others and having to fight for his life, he can't control himself, he has to act normal and go to school, and on top of that he's in love for the first time. It's true he's not as active as many other canon heroes, but that fits him very well, he doesn't want to be.
Nobody makes consistently good decisions in this show. Huh, now I wonder what a good Mary Sue would look like *g*

Date: 2013-07-02 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amnisias.livejournal.com
It's true he's not as active as many other canon heroes,(...)

I know that strictly speaking Scott is the (flawed) hero, but to me it's really an ensemble show, will all the teens being 'the hero' and Derek the anti-hero....

There's no UST in season 2, either. However they've made a bit more efford for Derek and Stiles at least to appear in the same scene and interact, but it's always much more 'partners of necessesity' rather than willingly working together.

Date: 2013-07-07 02:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] saphirablue
I've tried to watch it but it was too cheesy for me. :/ Even though, I kind of want to try again because I'm in love with Stiles and the awesome friend he is to Scott.

Date: 2013-07-08 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schneefink.livejournal.com
To each their own :) Yeah, Stiles is awesome, and I like his character even more because he's not always just the supportive sidekick, he can sometimes be petty and have his own agenda too.

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