Avengers: Endgame
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schneefinkOverall this was a lot of fun and excitement, with a few exceptions of things that sucked.
It started out really well, with Clint losing his family. (…you know what I mean.) And then that wonderful Tony&Nebula scene *_*
There was a lot of Nebula and it was great. I'm excited about hopefully seeing her interact with this Gamora. (I was holding out hope that the original Gamora would be back for the GotG3 movie and that's now probably out, I'm sad about that.)
Everything about Thor's storyline sucked. The self-recrimination for not killing Thanos, okay, but all the fat jokes were bad and so unnecessary, and then after he was convinced to come back and help save the world he was still portrayed as a drunken fool, ugh. The one moment I kinda liked was Thor and Rocket sneaking by Loki's cell ^^ And Bruce telling him that Thor helped him back then. (Though in general I'm with Valkyrie when it comes to Bruce/Hulk, I liked either separate version better.)
I was sorta hoping that the thing that would be undone would not be the Snap, but "everyone Thanos killed five years ago," because that could have included the Asgardians, including Heimdall and Loki, but iirc Steve was pretty specific. But if the Glove reacts to thoughts, who knows?, so there. ...not that it matters since I'm planning to ignore this part of Thor's story anyway.
And the result of bringing everyone who was Snapped back but now will be a shit-ton more trauma, both for those who disappeared and suddenly lost five years of their life and everything is different and worse, and those who'd mourned and tried to move on and suddenly everyone is back and how do you deal with that now. Not to mention everyone who died after the Snap because e.g. planes crashed.
(Fortunatelydira already wrote fix-it fic for that, Just This Once (The Everybody Lives Remix). )
The big battle at the end was suitably epic. Many heroes got very cool moments and it was just plain fun. (Thanos without the stones was op but whatever.) I have no idea where Valkyrie's horse came from, but it looked cool so I don't care.
As for the time travel, I was very confused by Steve's at the end but I found these links very helpful: [1], [2]. Basically each travel created a new separate timeline, and Steve just took a vacation in one for a few decades. Which… is still very weird. Idk. I'm just hoping someone will write the Peggy/Steve/Steve/Bucky fix everything story that this clearly requires.
My favorite time travel was to New York. Loki just disappearing with the Tesseract like that, heh. And Steve in that elevator! "Hail Hydra," brilliant.
I was annoyed by Natasha sacrificing herself, and it was made worse when Tony got the huge funeral and Natasha got three people sitting by a lake. Tony's death was well-done, with Rhodey and Peter and Pepper (Rescue!) Natasha, on the other hand, didn't get much space to shine, especially since she apparently ran the Avengers during the time skip. Yes, she doesn't have her own three solo movies, but that just makes it more obvious. …but then on the other hand I was never the biggest fan of Natasha, so while I find this annoying it doesn't actually upset me that much.
(I was surprised how many people really did leave in the middle of the movie to go to the toilet. Three hours doesn't seem that long to me? Apparently it is for others.)
It started out really well, with Clint losing his family. (…you know what I mean.) And then that wonderful Tony&Nebula scene *_*
There was a lot of Nebula and it was great. I'm excited about hopefully seeing her interact with this Gamora. (I was holding out hope that the original Gamora would be back for the GotG3 movie and that's now probably out, I'm sad about that.)
Everything about Thor's storyline sucked. The self-recrimination for not killing Thanos, okay, but all the fat jokes were bad and so unnecessary, and then after he was convinced to come back and help save the world he was still portrayed as a drunken fool, ugh. The one moment I kinda liked was Thor and Rocket sneaking by Loki's cell ^^ And Bruce telling him that Thor helped him back then. (Though in general I'm with Valkyrie when it comes to Bruce/Hulk, I liked either separate version better.)
I was sorta hoping that the thing that would be undone would not be the Snap, but "everyone Thanos killed five years ago," because that could have included the Asgardians, including Heimdall and Loki, but iirc Steve was pretty specific. But if the Glove reacts to thoughts, who knows?, so there. ...not that it matters since I'm planning to ignore this part of Thor's story anyway.
And the result of bringing everyone who was Snapped back but now will be a shit-ton more trauma, both for those who disappeared and suddenly lost five years of their life and everything is different and worse, and those who'd mourned and tried to move on and suddenly everyone is back and how do you deal with that now. Not to mention everyone who died after the Snap because e.g. planes crashed.
(Fortunately
dira already wrote fix-it fic for that, Just This Once (The Everybody Lives Remix). )The big battle at the end was suitably epic. Many heroes got very cool moments and it was just plain fun. (Thanos without the stones was op but whatever.) I have no idea where Valkyrie's horse came from, but it looked cool so I don't care.
As for the time travel, I was very confused by Steve's at the end but I found these links very helpful: [1], [2]. Basically each travel created a new separate timeline, and Steve just took a vacation in one for a few decades. Which… is still very weird. Idk. I'm just hoping someone will write the Peggy/Steve/Steve/Bucky fix everything story that this clearly requires.
My favorite time travel was to New York. Loki just disappearing with the Tesseract like that, heh. And Steve in that elevator! "Hail Hydra," brilliant.
I was annoyed by Natasha sacrificing herself, and it was made worse when Tony got the huge funeral and Natasha got three people sitting by a lake. Tony's death was well-done, with Rhodey and Peter and Pepper (Rescue!) Natasha, on the other hand, didn't get much space to shine, especially since she apparently ran the Avengers during the time skip. Yes, she doesn't have her own three solo movies, but that just makes it more obvious. …but then on the other hand I was never the biggest fan of Natasha, so while I find this annoying it doesn't actually upset me that much.
(I was surprised how many people really did leave in the middle of the movie to go to the toilet. Three hours doesn't seem that long to me? Apparently it is for others.)
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Date: 2019-04-30 09:37 am (UTC)Agreed re: Thor fat jokes. There's a good way of handling guilt and then there was what they did.
The logistics of the Snap didn't make much sense to me. Why not go back in time...
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Date: 2019-05-01 11:04 am (UTC)They didn't only make Thor fat, they also made him stupid, which, what.
Yeah, going back in time would have been a lot better/easier for the world as a whole. (I wonder if Morgan ever finds out they did it this way because of her, and if she feels guilty about it.)
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Date: 2019-05-01 03:15 am (UTC)Yeah, I wasn't at all sure I would make it without a toilet break.
I woke up at 10am, only had three cups of liquid between 10am and 12:30;
avoided all liquid between 12:30 and the 3pm movie session, and I still wasn't sure that I would make it without a toilet break. And I got up the second the end credits started - before the house lights came up - and zoomed to the toilet because I was worried I might have an accident if I sat through the credits.
Stress/anxiety makes people need to go to the toilet more often - stress chemicals make you need to urinate more often.
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Date: 2019-05-01 11:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-01 04:24 am (UTC)(I made sure to use the theater bathroom shortly before the trailers started, just in case, and I was fine, even having drunk about half of my large drink; my friend did the same prep but on our way out called for me to pause because she had to go again, kind of making it sound like I was rather silly for not automatically expecting that.)
Ha, more than I meant to write about restroom usage. I liked the movie fine but felt weirdly unaffected by it. Friends of mine talk about how much they cried, and I'm sitting there all, "Oh, yeah, it ... was fine?"
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Date: 2019-05-01 11:13 am (UTC)I didn't have a problem at all - but that might be a sign that I'm not drinking enough, which is probably true.
I had several moments of "yeah I can see why one would be sad about this" without really feeling it personally, but I could hear people crying in the theater during Tony's death.