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Breakfast conversation, lightly paraphrased because memory is an illusion:
Me: "You know what was nominated for Yuletide? "Die Leiden des jungen Werther" (The Sorrows of Young Werther.)
DD: "Oh god. We had to read it in high school and for me it's like Twilight, except without vampires, for the youth of back then."
Me, cracking up: "It is! Please tell me I can quote you on that."
DD: "It is like Twilight! Just over 200 years ago, and I'm 100% sure that less people killed themselves over Twilight."
DD, a little later: "Also, nobody calls Twilight a literary masterpiece. People react differently to someone saying their favorite book is "Die Leiden des jungen Werther" or "Twilight." At least admit that you like tragic, over-indulgent threesomes! (See how impacted I was by having to read this twenty years ago? I still get worked up over it.)"
DD, a little later, after learning from Wikipedia-via-me that Napoleon was a big fan of "Werther": "Napoleon would have liked Twilight."
DD, even later, seeing the actual nomination in the tag set: "Even the title "Twilight" is cooler."

Date: 2022-10-14 10:38 am (UTC)
tamsin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tamsin
I also had to read Werther in high school, so I fully sympathize with DD still getting worked up over it.

Date: 2022-10-16 04:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tamsin
I would have much preferred reading Faust, but alas I had to slog through Werther's self-centeredness instead.

Date: 2022-10-17 10:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tamsin
No, Werther is the only Goethe book we read.
My favorite class reading was probably Remarque. What was yours?

Date: 2022-10-14 02:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] genarti
hahaha!

I've never read it, but "everybody is wildly dramatically emo and somebody flings himself off a cliff" is all I know about it. I love the Twilight comparison! It's so funny how controversial dramatic potboilers of their day become classics through age... (Speaking in general, not of Yuletide, which doesn't lend itself to a Sainted Classic Of Literature lol.)

Date: 2022-10-14 02:45 pm (UTC)
zdenka: Miriam with a tambourine, text "I will sing." (Default)
From: [personal profile] zdenka
I've never read it, but I'm familiar with parts of the opera! :D

I can also never see the title without being reminded of this parody poem: https://www.poetrynook.com/poem/sorrows-werther

Date: 2022-10-14 07:49 pm (UTC)
zdenka: Miriam with a tambourine, text "I will sing." (Default)
From: [personal profile] zdenka
It's by Massenet! :D

Date: 2022-10-15 08:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beatrice_otter
I've never read the book, but my brother was in the children's chorus at the opera when our local opera company did it.

Date: 2022-10-14 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lannamichaels
Having had to read Werther in college and haven't never touched it since, I feel it would have been improved with vampires.

Date: 2022-10-14 09:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
I too had to read Werther in highschool (in French, though).

NApoléon would have loved Twilight, yeah.

Date: 2022-10-20 08:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
The only one outside of a few passages from Nietzsche, iirc.

Date: 2022-10-15 02:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scintilla10
Hee! I love this. :)

Date: 2022-10-15 04:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cahn
lolololol this is awesome!

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